debt ceiling, this is what the beige book is telling us, bill, the run-up is a big deal and the whole question. i'm not saying it's -- it's very important to solve these issues, but i think what the market wants, what investors want and probably what the american public wants is an understanding of the process of how we make a decision. i really think at this time our democracy and how we make decisions is entirely up in the air and unclear to most people. if business understood how we got to go, then i think there would be more clarity out there. you could operate a business. >> you know, steve, i have a question to you. i know it's basically fed policy under ben, under chairman greenspan not to wade into the actual mode to solve these issues, but isn't it a bit disingenuous of the fed to talk about all this uncertainty without making any comments as to hey, you guys, you need to deal with the debt. you need to deal -- >> but, they are. bernanke makes that comment a lot. he has said. >> says it all the time. >> more a solution. like telling them how to go about it. >> that's the prob